This is why I stopped being an atheist and started believing in God

This is Why I Stopped Being an Atheist and Started Believing in God

Peter Guirguis Testimony 14 Comments

Special Note for Christian Readers - Atheists and Agnostics Can Skip This Blue Box.
To my Christian readers of this blog, today’s post is not for you. It’s for my atheist friends, skeptical acquaintances, and undecided agnostics.

This blog post is my story of why I left atheism and started to believe in God. You can skip the reading and go straight to watching my video testimony by scrolling down. Then please share this blog post on Facebook and Twitter because it may bring unbelievers to Christ.

Ever wonder how people in the modern world can still believe in God despite the enormous amount of scientific evidence that points against one existing?

I mean, you would think that with all the scientific research out there and the progress we’ve made in academia, that religion would be near annihilated by now. Right?

But it’s not. Religion is alive and not well.

I’m Peter, and I can relate to you in a few ways:

  • I used to believe that Christianity was a made up religion for people who are too weak to go through life on their own
  • I used to think that there is no God, and the likelihood that One exists is the same as that of leprechauns and unicorns existing
  • I used to believe that when we died, there is no afterlife. Everything just goes to a black screen, like when you turn off your TV after having a good laugh of watching Friends.

But I no longer believe those things. You see, I’ve become a Christian.

Why I Left Atheism

I have dozens of atheist friends and acquaintances.

From my conversations with them, I found that atheists generally fall into two groups:

  1. They were raised in a home that didn’t believe in any god. (minority)
  2. Or they were raised in a home that believed in some sort of god. But when they grew up, they abandoned their faith and became atheists for different reasons. (majority)

I’m part of group number two.

I recently recorded on video my story of leaving atheism and embracing God.

When I first told my story on camera, it was 45 minutes long. But the video had to be condensed from 45 minutes to just 4 minutes.

You can watch it below if you like.

After watching it, you’ll find that there are missing gaps that will leave you wondering how I could go from being an atheist to being a Christian.

That’s why after you watch the video, I’ll give you a link to my full written story to read if you like.

But first, here’s the video.

As promised, here is a link to my full story. It will open in a new tab so you can read it later after you’re done with this article.

How Certain Are You That God Doesn’t Exist?

I ask atheists and agnostics to share with me a numerical statistic of how sure they are that God doesn’t exist.

Their answers vary from being as high as 99% percent positive that God doesn’t exist, to as low as 10%.

How sure are you that God doesn’t exist? 100%? 99%? 80%?

How certain are you that God doesn't exist?

If you say 100%, then I have to say that doesn’t make sense.

Some people estimate that the average human has about 1% percent knowledge of all the knowledge that there is in the world.

So how can someone who has 1% of all knowledge in the world say that they are 100% sure that they’re right about there being no God?

That doesn’t make sense.

The number should be lowered to something less than 100%.

For the rest of this post, I’m going to assume that you’re 99% sure that God doesn’t exist, and that you’re just 1% certain that He does exist.

If your numbers are different, just stick with me for a little bit.

If You Don’t Eliminate Your 1% Doubt as an Atheist, Then You’re in Danger

You see, I used to be 99% sure that God didn’t exist, and I was willing to admit that there was a 1% chance that I was wrong.

That 1% bothered me sometimes. I would ask myself sometimes:

  • What if God is real?
  • What if there is an after-life?
  • What if I end up going somewhere for the rest of eternity to be punished for the wrong things I’ve done in this life?

After all, I’ve lied, I’ve stolen a few things, and I’ve hurt a few people along the way even though it was mostly unintentional.

If you’re honest with yourself, then you too have had your moments of doubt about your position about God’s existence.

It’s left you feeling uncomfortable sometimes.

Whatever the number is of how certain you are that there is no God, if you don’t eliminate your doubt, then you’re going to suffer these problems:

  • You’re never going to have that inner peace that you’re looking for. That 1% doubt is going to be that itch in the middle of your back that you just can’t reach and scratch.
  • You’re going to continue searching Google, going from one search result to the next, and choosing to believe the articles that affirm your position. Your 1% doubt will never go away, and that dark cloud of uncertainty will continue to rain on your thoughts.
  • You’ll continue to feel lonely from time to time. At least, that’s the way I felt when I was an atheist.

Imagine Your World When You’ve Eliminated Your 1% Doubt

What would your world look like if you put to rest the issue of God’s existence, and you became 100% sure of your position?

You’d probably be happier.

You would finally be able to get rid of your lingering doubt so you can have peace of mind.

You would feel comfortable in your shoes, like walking in flip-flops along a sandy beach.

Inspector Gadget

Inspector Gadget is a funny cartoon character who investigates strange cases and always solves the problem. You’re being challenged to investigate God’s existence deeper than before.

That’s why I’m making you a special offer.

I’m offering for you to get rid of your 1% doubt (or greater) by reading things you’ve never read before.

For the rest of this article, I’m going to give you three areas of investigation.

I want to challenge you to become like Inspector Gadget, without the weird hat.

I want you to read the opposition’s materials.

It’ll be a spoon full of sugar that will make the medicine go down, spin around, and fall to the ground (That’s just me being silly because I felt like rhyming).

This Exercise is Only For an Elite Group of Atheists

Let’s face it. Reading the opposition’s point of view sometimes gets us angry, upset, or outraged.

But only atheists that can set their emotions aside will be able to carry out the task at hand.

It’s something that’s hard to do, but it is possible.

I’ve done it when I was an atheist.

I’ve also done it now that I’m a Christian because I read all kinds of material by non-Christians about spirituality.

If doing a deep investigation into the opposition’s point of view is not your cup of tea, then stop reading this article, and go drink a cup of orange juice.

But if it is, then keep reading.

You Might Be Thinking, “But I’ve Already Read About This Stuff Before.”

I hear you loud and clear captain. But I’m pretty darn sure you haven’t read the material that I’m about to give you.

Plus, I’m not asking you just to read the sources listed below.

I want you to understand enough about each of the topics mentioned either until you eliminate your 1% doubt, or until you change your mind about God’s existence.

3 Kinds of Evidence For the Christian God That You Should Investigate with Eyes Wide Open and a Magnifying Glass the Size of Texas

So here are the areas that I think are most compelling for you to investigate.

As you’re looking at the reading material, consider the source.

Ask yourself these questions to identify if the source is a good one:

  1. “Can the author relate to me?”
  2. “Do they know what they’re talking about?”
  3. “What’s their motivation for writing this?”

1. Evidence #1 – Evidence For the Resurrection of Jesus

Was Jesus a real person who existed? Did He die on a cross? How did Christianity spread?

There are all sorts of theories and information out there about Jesus.

Some information is good, and other information is garbage.

Cold Case Christianity

This book is unique because it’s written by a former atheist who was a homicide detective.

One of the best books I’ve read on this subject is by a brilliant detective by the name of James Warner Wallace.

The best part is that Wallace was an atheist too, so he knows exactly the way you think, your skepticism, and he can relate to where you’re coming from.

For a small investment, you can read how a homicide detective approaches the investigation of Jesus and His resurrection.

I guarantee you that this book is unique, and Wallace’s methodologies of investigation have not been applied before to the subjects of Jesus and Christianity.

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2. Evidence #2 – Evidence For a Finely Tuned Universe

This is the evidence that the late atheist Christopher Hitchens said was the most compelling argument for God’s existence.

Here, watch this video to see what I mean.

I highly recommend that you make the fine tuning of the universe an area of investigation.

Go to Google and type, “fine tuning argument.”

You’ll also find related search topics like, “fine tuning argument debunked.”

Here’s the thing: the fine tuning argument doesn’t say that a particular God exists.

But what it does say is that because the universe has the appearance of  being designed, then the probability of there being an Intelligent Designer is the most likely choice.

3. Evidence #3 – Evidence For a Created Universe in Physics

If you’re fascinated by physics, then I recommend starting with reading this article.

http://www.strangenotions.com/how-contemporary-physics-points-to-god/

Then I recommend doing an investigation of the problems with Dr. Lawrence Krauss’s theory on a universe from nothing.

Google “Lawrence Krauss a universe from nothing problems,” or a similar search term.

Also, Stephen Hawking has a theory about how the universe could come from nothing.

But his theory has some fatal flaws that are pointed out by Sir John Lennox, a mathematician from Oxford.

John’s book is another eye-opening read that is highly recommended. Click here to check it out.

You Can Be Either Like Sam Harris or Antony Flew

Sam Harris is considered by many to be the champion for atheists.

He’s regularly seen debating people from different religions. Sam’s arguments are seen by some as being best-of-class.

I’m sure you’ll agree that Sam spends a lot of his time reading material from “the other side.”

You can be like Sam too by reading these resources.

Either it’ll cause you to continue to be an atheist.

Or it will cause you to switch sides like former atheist, Antony Flew.

Antony was one of the most famous atheists of his generation.

He was well-known for teaching that all people should assume atheism, until evidence for a God surfaces.

Antony wrote books, made speeches, and did many things to be a staunch advocate for atheism.

But all of his efforts were reversed in 2004 when he made the shocking announcement that he believed in God.

I Care About What Happens to You After You Die

So why am I doing all of this?

It’s because I care about you, and about what happens to your soul after you die.

I’m so convinced that my position about God is true, that I’m willing to put up with the hateful comments, snarky social media comments, and even false accusations by some people.

You see, I believe that you and I are sinners and we do a lot of things that are wrong.

Just answer these questions right now:

1. How many lies have you told in your life?

I’ve told a gazillion billion lies and I’m just 36 years old.

If you’re anything like me, then you’ve told a ton of lies throughout your life.

That makes us both liars.

2. Have you ever stolen something, even if it was something small?

When I was a kid, I stole a toy from a grocery store near my home.

My mom found out about it, and made me return it.

I was a thief. If you’ve stolen something big or small, then you’re one too.

I’ve also stolen a bunch of pens and paperclips from companies that I’ve worked for in the past.

That counts as well.

3. Have you ever lusted (had a strong sexual desire) for someone, or slept with someone who you’re not married to?

God sees both of these acts as being sinful.

One day you’re going to face God on Judgement Day and you’re going to have to answer for all the wrong things you’ve done, said, and thought.

You and I are going to be found guilty of doing all sorts of bad things unless there is a way out.

God made a way for you and me to ditch our punishment for the wrong things we’ve done by turning away from our sin (repenting), and putting our trust in Jesus.

You and I committed crimes against a Holy God, and we stand before Him waiting for our sentence to receive our punishment.

But then in comes Jesus who tells the judge:

Judge, take the sentence that you’re about to give my friend and give it to Me instead. Let them go and put Me in jail.

If you repent (forsake your sins) and put your trust in Jesus, then you can avoid getting the punishment you deserve (hell), and go to heaven instead.

I Know it Sounds Crazy But That’s What I Believe

There was a time in my life when if I read the preceding paragraphs then I would have dismissed them as the rantings of a fool.

But now I am a fool for Christ and it’s a privilege for me to be that way.

If I can answer any questions, or help you in any way on your spiritual journey, please leave a comment or contact me using this contact form.

 

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I'm the Technology and Social Media Manager of Calvary Chapel South Bay, a church in Gardena, California. My passion is to see people give their life to Christ both online and offline. I've created the free guide to getting thousands of Twitter followers to show ordinary people how to get extraordinary results on Twitter.

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  2. I have some things to say. First, being an atheist isn’t really a huge debate between Christianity and atheism. Because it is the largest religion in this country, that makes it the most revisited supernatural claim, but it’s not the be-all end-all. Likewise, if you would get emotionally invested and upset at reading material supporting evidence of God, then you might not have been a full atheist.

    It’s not a question of “Is there a 1% chance that Christianity’s version of God exists?” It’s more like “There is a 1% chance that a supernatural being with infinite cosmic power exists based solely off of the fact that we have limited knowledge so it doesn’t really matter because I’m happy with my life the way it is”.

    And therefore, I’m glad you’re happy with your decision. More power to ya.

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  4. So you were born an atheist just like everyone else and brainwashed into christianity by people around you. Later you found all those christianity was all bullshit and became atheist. Then you regretted and went back to being christian.
    Hear me. Go and read the bible verse by verse from head to tail. It contains a lot of murdering, raping, hate, slavery, cannibalism, genital mutilation, and all those stuff that don’t seem any bit moral if you have enough common sense. It states god did that, so “god is good”. You’re worshiping a god that kills and tortures innocent “creations of his own”. And he banished Satan to hell because Satan killed 10 people with god’s permission while god himself killed over 2.4 million people after the flood.
    They say god created the universe and I say the universe started as a big bang. They say nothing can come into existence from nothing, I say how can god come from nothing. And you should read all the contradictions in your bible.
    Now fear not where you’ll go after death. Hell is full of awesome scientists and past leaders that it is now most probably air-conditioned and wifi-covered, because all of those people in history “sinned” at least once. While heaven is a boring place without these things because nobody who has used science or technology has not “sinned”, because using a “devil’s creation” is one.
    Also, in heaven it is hotter than in hell. Isaiah 30:26 reads, “Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days.” To calculate that using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation, (H/E)^4=50 where H is the absolute temperature of heaven and E is the absolute temperature of earth about 300 Kelvins. Do some algebra and you’ll find out the temperature of heaven is 798 Kelvins (525°C). Revelations 21:8 “But the fearful and unbelieving… shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” The temperature of hell must be less than 445°C or else a lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] will vaporize. Heaven is hotter than hell.
    Evolution vs. creation. Creation couldn’t have happened because humans are over 200 million years old while the bible says humans were created 6000 years ago. We have tons of evidence of 200 million year old human fossils, and organisms that existed before that. Exceeds 6000 years by so much.
    Bible states that earth was created before the sun. That is completely illogical as you can see the sun is way bigger than the earth and has a greater gravitational pull than earth. You don’t need me to explain how the asteroids crashed to form the earth and the moon.
    Now think about it. Is it moral to worship a god that brainwashes people into torturing innocent civilians? Is it scientific to practise a religion that has no further sources of proof other than publications of its own?
    I can provide you with more evidence to counter your faith.

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  5. Genesis 17 is referring to the circumcision of baby boys – that’s completely different. Eunuchs in the Bible willingly allowed themselves to be castrated. But, this is a very broad area since the prevalence of eunuchs ranged from the Romans, Greeks, Persians, Chinese, etc. So it wasn’t necessarily just a Jewish or Christian practice.

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  7. Gavin, not one thing you said is perfectly accurate. It may appear accurate to someone who does not know anything about anything, someone who has an axe to grind against Christianity/God/good, someone who interprets things from their own distorted/unlearned/undisciplined perspective, because it suits their numerous personal biases, wounds and agendas (whether conscious or not).

    Aside from the Earth being created before the sun (as stated in Genesis), everything you said is akin to trying to learn how to drive (theory and practice) whilst being severely drugged and drunk – you’re going to perceive things so differently to how they really are, you’re going to go off on your own tangents of logic, and believe yourself to be true. That’s how wrong you are about everything you wrote above.

    Firstly God does not torture, murder or deceive His own creations. You interpret things as so, because you being evil, look at good (God) and you from your own viewpoint perceive evil. All who are evil see true good as evil. You forgot to mention that part of the Bible because it exposes your own state of being and your own numerous errors. It’s easy to blame others, but when you have to blame yourself – you cover that up? How then can you judge others as wrong, if you yourself deceive?

    “So you were born an atheist just like everyone else”<

    You start of with a lie. There have been tests done, by the body of science you so trust, which show that children actually, by default have a belief in the otherworldly, the higher than themselves. But the world itself brainwashes them into NOT thinking or pursuing that.

    In my own life, I’ve seen children in their young ages, who would probably outsmart most adults – especially those with a predominantly materialistic outlook of all life, with their wisdom and understanding of core concepts of how the universe works. It’s always a transcendent understanding, showing that the totality of reality itself far exceeds the physical realm of this plane of reality.

    “Later you found all those Christianity was all bullshit and became atheist.”<

    I think the most bullshit is to be found in those who are far from God. They have so much bullshit inside of them, that they have normalized it and institutionalized it. For them it has become a way of life, their politics, their staunch belief system.
    Having been on all sides of the fence, I can safely say that. I remember well.

    “It contains a lot of murdering, raping, hate, slavery, cannibalism, genital mutilation, and all those stuff that don’t seem any bit moral if you have enough common sense.”<

    Just because the Bible records the broad spectrum of human life and the evil committed upon this world does not mean that it endorses the things it has recorded. Have you never thought more soberly that it records these things as lessons of what NOT to do. Along with the solutions and ways out of such evil? Surely you did not miss that part of the Bible – or did you omit that part again, to reinforce your agenda?

    If you were truly honest, that’s what you would have said. But you have an agenda and do not want to be held accountable to God, so you have to make Him out to be the bad guy. Observe… you never point fingers at yourself and let everyone here know how much wrong you yourself have done. You uplift Satan and lower God, because evil lives in you. And because you are devoid of fundamental and necessary knowledge, but are FULL of useless knowledge. You are trying to learn 10th grade mathematics, but you have not even passed 2nd and 3rd grade yet. Life does not work that way my friend, it just does not! You cannot skip over things in that way, you are only going to end up being SEVERELY confused about EVERYTHING. Which is what you are.

    Are you going to blame every (secular) history book and condemn it as untrustworthy because it contains “murdering, raping, hate, slavery, cannibalism, genital mutilation, and all that stuff that don’t seem any bit moral if you have enough common sense?”

    So then, why are you so masterfully practicing double standards? Why are you so self-serving?
    Jesus called hypocrites those who were double talkers and deceivers amongst the religious elite of His day. Even being godless, how are you any different, if you are doing the same thing, to bolster your own ideology?

    “And he banished Satan to hell because Satan killed 10 people with god’s permission while god himself killed over 2.4 million people after the flood.”<

    Satan has killed over 10+ billion people throughout Earth’s history. That’s probably a very low estimate.

    As for the flood, God has the right to clean up His creation. You forget, the whole universe is His, not yours, nor anyone else’s. You are inside of His universe, upon a very small planet, where humans are akin to kindergarten children. And you dare raise yourself up to be a mighty judge?

    According to God’s law, if a creation becomes corrupted (due to fallen/Satanic influences) [which themselves are temporal and shall pass away], God holds the right to destroy that creation. Not because He finds no problem with destruction, but because evil cannot exist in the light of God, it naturally perishes. The whole universe is set up so that everything which is deviant, (deviance comes from godlessness), naturally perishes.

    Therefore it is up to those who have become corrupt, to seek a way out of their corruption though God, unless they are waiting for the natural consequences to befall them.
    A human body does not promote viruses and bad bacteria to live inside of it, it brutally destroys both. The universe God created brutally destroys all parts of it, which have become corrupt. Otherwise the corruption spreads and pollutes other areas.

    God does not abandon people, allowing them to become spoiled. It is people who abandon Him and then blame Him for their own suffering/pain/problems.
    God always warns, teaches and nourishes ahead of time. But it is the choices of humans which cause the rift to form and the subsequent effects of that: which are always extremely miserable.

    “They say god created the universe and I say the universe started as a big bang.”<

    The question of how the universe came about is completely unimportant. The Earth will perish and those who are saved will be taken by God and placed upon the new Earth, where they will be able to learn science “light-years” ahead of the science which humans can even achieve upon this current fallen/corrupted planet. Thus the labours of current science are in vain and by necessity will be wiped away into nothingness. That is the reason why God did not even bother to teach scientific facts about the nature of reality. Because that subject alone is extremely vast – and there simply isn’t time to be interested in that, when the planet as a whole is being replaced and souls require salvation/redemption.

    Humanists, scientists, materialists, and atheists are putting the cart before the horse. You have not even learned yet how to treat others properly, how to treat your Creator properly, and you want more power, in the guise of scientific knowledge and technology? Are you out of your mind?

    What happens when power is given to anyone who is inherently corrupt? They give power to their corruption, which in turn corrupts them even more. The end result is utter self-destruction. But from the point of view of the one who is destroying themselves, they deeply believe that they are saving themselves, progressing and evolving – that they are one step away from finishing their greatest work of art. Thus pride truly blinds and comes before the fall.

    “They say nothing can come into existence from nothing, I say how can god come from nothing.”<

    You are thinking as humans think, not as God thinks. You are thinking from a created mind, no bigger than a small ball. God is infinitely bigger than the universe and is inherently eternal.
    You are thinking with a flesh mind, a linear mind, which cannot imagine, visualise, nor implement concepts outside of its own systemic limitations. Just as no game character can do what it has not been allowed/programmed to do by its programmer.

    You are thinking as all creatures think, because you were created, so you require a beginning and an end. But eternity is an entirely “other” concept which is simply unrealizable in your current body.
    Nor can any machine man creates contemplate eternity, since all creations of man are reflections of man. And man is a broken image of God, not a whole image. Thus if man distorts what God gives, than the creations of man will distort even more, and affect man to mimic the same, further corrupting man.

    “And you should read all the contradictions in your bible.”<

    Many of the so called contradictions are only contradictions from the point of view of someone who is far from God and unsaved. The contradiction which many remain after greater understanding has been gained, are interesting in that they prove that the events recorded are real. A fictional story teller

    Just as real life of our day, where there are many contradictory things which do not fit, the Bible records the same aspect of life. But if you are referring to spiritual doctrine – it us as uniform and unified as nothing else upon this Earth. Especially considering the book was written over a 1500+ year span. Like no other book. And for it to have the clear message that it does, and to predict many things before they actually come to pass, and to continually build upon that which came before — that is a consistency not found elsewhere. Even science cannot claim such consistency over a 10 year period. Since new discoveries continually redefine and revolutionize understanding. Yet with the Bible one can pick up the Old or the New Testaments, and they fit and they are still relevant today as they were over the last 3500 years. Things in the Bible fit so well, but only if you’ve studied things and persevered to understand. Just like any other discipline, the Bible requires patience, time, and dedication. On top of that, it requires God’s Spirit to guide you through it, to give to you the deeper understanding, of what you are actually reading. To make things “stick”, so to speak.

    If you just read the text as a piece of fiction or as just another book, don’t expect any true understanding. Because God will have nothing to do with the prideful and the conceited. Not until you humble yourself and return to the ground in humility, then you will be given true knowledge.

  8. @Gavin, Part 2 (last part):

    “Hell is full of awesome scientists and past leaders that it is now most probably air-conditioned and wifi-covered, because all of those people in history “sinned” at least once. While heaven is a boring place without these things because nobody who has used science or technology has not “sinned”, because using a “devil’s creation” is one.
    Also, in heaven it is hotter than in hell. Isaiah 30:26 reads, “Moreover, the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold as the light of seven days.” To calculate that using the Stefan-Boltzmann fourth power law for radiation, (H/E)^4=50 where H is the absolute temperature of heaven and E is the absolute temperature of earth about 300 Kelvins. Do some algebra and you’ll find out the temperature of heaven is 798 Kelvins (525°C). Revelations 21:8 “But the fearful and unbelieving… shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” The temperature of hell must be less than 445°C or else a lake of molten brimstone [sulfur] will vaporize. Heaven is hotter than hell.”<

    I truly hope you were trying to set up one huge jest. Because this is akin to a robot having a short-circuit.

    Heaven and hell, first of all, are not places of physical reality. Therefore physical bodies do not exist, therefore no need for air-conditioning. Secondly outside of the Earth, knowledge of God is accessible freely, because none there are fallen. So the knowledge scientists from Earth could bring would actually be useless and primitive. Most Earth leaders have been godless and have been co-opted by darker forces to do their bidding, over a gradual period of time, to acclimatize the populace, thus they are not good examples of leadership, they’re examples of self-interest.

    The other goof you made, is with your love of wi-fi. Outside of fallen creations, radiation technology such as wi-fi is utterly unnatural and repugnant. Only fallen races utilize electro magnetic waves in such a way.

    Light is utilized by those who have not separated themselves from God, as humankind has.

    “Creation couldn’t have happened because humans are over 200 million years old while the bible says humans were created 6000 years ago. We have tons of evidence of 200 million year old human fossils, and organisms that existed before that. Exceeds 6000 years by so much.”<

    Not once does the Bible actually say “The Earth is only 6000 years old” This is an interpretation of certain people and of certain denominations of Christianity. To be entirely honest, we do not know.

    As for 200 million year old fossils of humans, you do not know whether the laws of physics always applied in the same way, as they do now. You do not know whether time always applied in the same way. Nor do you know whether the nature of reality was the same.

    What we currently have, is a lot of contradictory evidence. And each side wants to defend its own version, its own cosmology and utterly ignore and condemn with joy anything that contradicts its own understanding. Both sides are dishonest and childish.

    That is why God did not focus on history, biology, geography, science, astronomy……. because these things divide people up into groups, groups which then conflict over completely inconsequential matters.

    It’s like trying to have a huge debate with the passengers around you, about the whole history of Asia, as you are sinking on the Titanic. Who gives a ….! That’s not what is most essential RIGHT NOW!

    “The Bible states that earth was created before the sun. That is completely illogical as you can see the sun is way bigger than the earth and has a greater gravitational pull than earth.”<

    This bothers me as well. But having seen how God works in my and other people’s lives, am I going to be a fool and get stuck on the things I have no understanding about? NO!

    Just as scientists of today were not alive 4.53 billion years ago at the formation of this solar system, nor were they alive 13+ billion years ago at the supposed formation of the universe.

    People cannot objectively and with full detail work out what happened just a couple of weeks ago, let alone….

    “Now think about it. Is it moral to worship a god that brainwashes people into torturing innocent civilians?”<

    Firstly God does not brainwash anyone. It is actually the other way around: all ideologies and spiritual teachings of the Fallen Angels/Satan, they alone brainwash the human populace of this planet. Amongst these many teachings and systems, is the secular ideology, based upon materialism and scientism, called atheism.

    Atheism MUST brainwash people CONTINUALLY through various means to sustain itself. Just like other false teachings, spiritual or not.

    God Himself – He simply gives His knowledge to humans. Then those who are able to be saved (have not lost their conscience), they will follow it, eventually, because God will lead them to His law of life. Because He knows what is good for His children.

    Those who want to walk their own (fallen) way and find out where it truly ends, they too are free to do so. God gives you free will Gavin. You have been severely programmed to interpret things in an inverse manner. Yet if you investigated for yourself, without any bias (which as an atheist you should have learned to be: unbiased), then you would find out that you are wrong, your atheist views are incorrect, your friends of the same persuasion are also wrong, the big leaders of atheism are majorly wrong. Because none of you have broken yourselves, all of you think you are the smartest kids on the block. That is what keeps you blind to the very thing you do not see, nor understand.

    God is love. God is light. God has no need for humankind, yet still out of His love He incarnated upon the Earth to save us.
    That is love Gavin. When you go out of your way to help someone who cannot help you in any way.

    Even though throughout history, around the world, many have spat on God, cursed Him and denied Him, yet He kept giving them a chance, kept waiting for them to break through their own mental programming and to grow up. So that they could return to Him, like the prodigal son in Jesus’ parable.

    God is the Father to all of Creation. If you yourself were a father and some of your children treated you as those above and you suffered through their misbehaviour – how long do you think you could take it? Would you let it go on forever?

    I am not sure which God you were talking about, when you said “He” enjoys teaching people to torture each other? Are you talking about the false “God” Allah, from Islam?

    That’s not the true Creator found in Judeo Christianity.

    “Is it scientific to practise a religion that has no further sources of proof other than publications of its own?”<

    More than scientific, is it wise and truthful to practice science, which has no further proof of its usefulness, other than to the matter and the flesh of man, when it has no other higher body than itself to verify itself as true? Especially considering that it needs updating all of the time, which means that it is constantly incomplete and incorrect. We find that something works for a little while, then a hundred years later we find that it has actually been damaging us for the last 100 years and we have to totally abandon that paradigm and product.

    Is it truly moral and wise to do that, now that we are asking THE question?
    Human beings are not guinea pigs, surely?…. Or are they?

    “I can provide you with more evidence to counter your faith.”<

    I can provide you with an infinite amount of evidence that your faithlessness is a fundamental error and that it leads to death. And that in your denial of death, you accept it. Yet if you accepted it, you would deny it. But not in the way you think.

    Remember, you can prove your version of reality to those who are of your own understanding, but I have been where you are in my early 20s. I outgrew it. You know when you simply outgrow something and you move on? And then you continue trying to find the darn truth of things and you come up against yourself ultimately. This is the evidence that you are being led by God: that the countless teachings of the world have fallen short of the simplicity of Christ, in your own eyes.

    When you pass simplicity, and are thoroughly grown in it, then you will be ready for complexity. Right now however…. you really are a mess man. It’s not a pretty sight to see. It’s like looking back into my own past – I was not a pretty sight. None of us were.

    But there is hope and there is a solution. There is always hope…

  9. But which God do they speak of ? Who says that the Christian religion is the only true religion ? And Why ? To me Religion is Bull Shit. !

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